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keith replied to the topic 'Technique and Learning to play' in the forum. 3 hours 18 minutes ago

A couple of nice tunes there, Eric. :)

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Eric33 replied to the topic 'Technique and Learning to play' in the forum. 3 hours 41 minutes ago

I think Hoagy sings this in Bb I will try it one day.Eric33
youtu.be/Y2mV7FrYtRI

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Dexer replied to the topic 'Question re types of tuning' in the forum. 7 hours 32 minutes ago

Simon, don't let Sarge scare you...but I know what he means :).

The Orchestra S is a very high quality harp. Honestly, with all the variety of harps I own, if there was a zombie apocalypse and I was forced to take just one family of harps, I'd take the Seydel Session Steels of which the Orchestra S is a member. The Steels have all of the best qualities in a modern harp: stainless steel reeds, full length covers tapered at the ends, a plastic comb into which the reed plates are recessed. Excellent comfort and excellent quality (check out my photo album, all my harps are pictured including the Orchestra S from Sarge).

But I get what Sarge is saying.. The harp sounds great but the unconventional tuning has a learning curve. For a beginner, it's a problem of learning a two note arrangements and, if you use tabs, there is very little posted on the 'net. I found I could START with an available tab but I'd end up having to "re-tab" about half of it. It's a big challenge for something that you don't really need that often.

However, take comfort in knowing it's an excellent harp but it might be more useful to you down the road when you are more practiced with standard tunings. You don't want to bite off TOO much right now.

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Sarge replied to the topic 'Question re types of tuning' in the forum. 8 hours 1 minute ago

Simon, If you ordered the Seydel 10 hole orchestra I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. I bought one and did one song with it in the attached video. No advantage that I could tell so I sent it on to Dex because he didn't have one in his collection.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO-He-lwySU

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keith replied to the topic 'Beginners Videos' in the forum. 14 hours 9 minutes ago

Cheers, Simon, by recording yourself not only do you see your mistakes, but you get to see that you are in fact improving, I recommend it. :)

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Simon replied to the topic 'Beginners Videos' in the forum. 20 hours 12 minutes ago

Sounding good! I like the tone you're getting. I reckon it's a great idea to record yourself. I used to do that a lot when I was trying to improve my singing. The only problem comes if we then just focus on the bits we're doing wrong. I found it very useful to note the odd occasions when I got something just right. It gave me a bit of a morale boost tho think that if I could get some of it right, some of the time, a bit more work would having me getting more of it right more of the time. If ys know what I mean. :-) I should emulate you and start doing the same thing more often with my harmonica practice!.

Cheers

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Simon replied to the topic 'Blocked harp' in the forum. 20 hours 21 minutes ago

Great advice. Thanks again, Dexter.

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Dexer replied to the topic 'Blocked harp' in the forum. 21 hours 45 minutes ago

Simon wrote:

... Do you mean I should just keep attempting to play it and just ignore or put up with the non-working notes?

Strange as it may seem, I guess that is the advice I'm giving you.

Without having first hand access to the harp, I have to make a statistical guess.

Like I said, I've got a boatload of harps (and another in the mail as I type this!) so I own about 1200 reeds :). 1 of those reeds stuck. Literally a less than one-in-a thousand occurrence. And I've not had a reed problem on any of my 6 chromatics...that's 288 reeds on harmonicas made in 3 different countries with no failure or problem. I think all my harps came from 6 different dealers (in Canada, China, Japan and the United States) and 2 private acquisitions.

I have to ask, "What is the probability that you got a harp with not just one reed problem but more than one"? It could happen. But you'd have to be a seriously unlucky guy.

I've owned an awful lot of gear (not harmonicas) that seemed flawed until I understood the idiosyncrasies. Everything from cameras to refrigerators seemed to be malfunctioning.

So, yeah...keep trying to play it. If it seems really messed up, you can remove the covers and stand in front of the mirror while you play it. You can look at the reeds in the mirror while you play (a flashlight will help). You can actually see them moving. I've done this. This will help you diagnose the issue. If you see them moving, they aren't stuck. Maybe they need gapping. Maybe the reed plates need embossing.

But, yeah, keep playing it. And if it really is in need of attention, you'll have a better idea of what's going on and what needs attention.

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Simon replied to the topic 'Question re types of tuning' in the forum. yesterday

Hi Keith

I've just ordered one of these. I'll let you know how it goes when it arrives from Seydel. :-) Thanks again!

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Simon replied to the topic 'Blocked harp' in the forum. yesterday

Hi Sarge

Unfortunately, I bought it direct from China (Aliexpress).

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Sarge replied to the topic 'Blocked harp' in the forum. yesterday

Simon, if you bought that harp from Newharmonica.com, send it back and Danny will make it right.

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Simon replied to the topic 'Blocked harp' in the forum. yesterday

Thanks heaps for the replay and support, Dexer. It's certainly reassuring to hear that I'm not alone in having such a problem. I totally hear you regarding the vales. With so many issues that seem to relate to them, it doesn't seem surprising that no-one has come up with a more robust and reliable system of valving, especially considering what you can pay for something like this. I have to say that the notes that are working certainly have a nice, warm tone to them when I play them right (it seems that it needs quite a different embouchure to my Suzuki diatonic, and I'm still getting used to that).

I'm just not sure I understand your last comments though. Do you mean I should just keep attempting to play it and just ignore or put up with the non-working notes?

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Eric33 replied to the topic 'Technique and Learning to play' in the forum. yesterday

I am not sure whether or not I have posted this one before.I must get organised.Eric33.youtu.be/0TVrEMhJtUY

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Dexer replied to the topic 'Blocked harp' in the forum. yesterday

Simon wrote:

...this sounds like a similar issue to the problems I've been having with my new EastTop Chromatic. I've tried pulling it to bits and checking the reeds and wind-savers, but really can't see anything wrong with any of them... I've thought about rinsing it out with water (it's brass-combed) but nothing I've read so far has suggested this, and I didn't want to risk making things worse.

I've tried slipping paper under and all that. I've tried warming it up first. I've got to the stage where I'm almost considering half-valving it to see if that would help, but that seems a step too far for such a beginner as myself.

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Ooo...a brass combed chromatic. Nice!

I'm going to make an assumption that this is a windsaver issue. 99% of the time, that's what it is. Having an actual reed get stuck is rare (not impossible, of course, but rare).

I don't want to pass myself off as a chromatic authority. ..I'm NOT. But I do have a number of chroms. At the low end, I have a Swan and at the high end, a Suzuki Sirius. In between: a couple of Hohners and a couple of mid-range Suzukis.

Sticking windsavers is a problem which can be mitigated but not permanently fixed. It's just the nature of the beast. We do what we can to minimize it and sometimes our luck will run for a long time. Sometimes the windsavers will start to stick after just a few minutes. My Sirius is a $500.00 harp but the windsavers still stick. When I got my first chrom (a Hohner 270) the 4 blow was always sticking...probably because I was practicing a lot of songs with 4 blows. Warming certainly helps but its a treatment, not a cure. Frankly, I'm disappointed that engineers haven't put more thought into developing a better valving system. And it's also likely that a brass comb may required a lot longer warm up time.

Rinsing shouldn't hurt it but, at this point, is unlikely to help. I doubt if this is a contamination problem.

And, to you last comment, I'd not fiddle with it until you're a lot more experienced. More often than not, I mess things up by trying to "fix' them before I understand them completely. I once tried to fix the 2 draw reed on a diatonic....before I came to understand that the 2 hole draw is almost always a technique problem. I have an embarrassingly large number of harps. Out of about 40 diatonics, 3 tremolos, and 6 chroms, I've found exactly ONE stuck reed (the 1 hole draw on a Low F). I fixed it. A few harps have benefited from gapping. So true problems are rare.

I suspect that, as you become more experienced, most of these issue will fade.

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harmonician replied to the topic 'Wonderful land' in the forum. yesterday

OK Drifter, I like your version, sounds nice. I am not trying to get a Hawaiian sounding piece, I want it as near to the Shadows as I can get. I don't mind first bends, but I haven't seen the need to use any as yet. I will play guitar backing to it, so I need it to be as simple as I can get it. (I've only been learning this past eight months, but am making steady progress). my version allows me to play in the octave (6), which also appears in the original record. Thanks for you input, I'm always willing to listen to advice.

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